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Interview via e-mail with former Billy Joel bassist
Larry Russell
(Jul 22, 2006)
[Larry, present time]
Reniet: What do you remember about the band being contacted to play at Mar Y Sol?
Larry: I don't recall how we were contacted, I was very young at the time, and didn't care much how we got there, as long as we did.
Billy's
manager at that time handled all the travel/touring details. You see,
Billy Joel at that time was completely unknown. He was a struggling
artist packed with so much talent that his record company could not
keep up with the costs of really promoting him to fruition. And he had
a band that completely believed in him and his music and wanted to go
all the way to his see it's success.
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Reniet: What do you remember about getting to the island? (where did you come from, where did you stay or any interesting memories about being in Puerto Rico)
Larry:
The day before (April 1) we performed at the huge, cavernous Miami
Convention Center, opening for The Beach Boys. It was a lousy place for
a small and intimate band like ours. How could a song like "She's Got A
Way", really reach the audience? It was a mismatch venue wise. But I do
understand the need to expand and test the waters...
Once
we landed at San Juan Airport, I remember noticing a local girl there,
and somehow gave her the number to The Cerromar Beach Hotel, where we
were staying. God! was she gorgeous. I had and still have a weakness
for Spanish/Hispanic women... We then took a very small plane to Dorado
Beach, where the hotel was located and then checked in. Alan (our
guitarist) and I roomed together and within minutes Ivi Munez. the girl
that I had met 40 minutes earlier called. I asked her to come to
backstage area of the festival grounds to arrange a backstage pass.
Meanwhile
back at Dorado Beach, we traveled by car to a helicopter strip to take
us to Mar Y Sol but we had to do the flight three at a time. I remember
getting in first with my big Fender Bass (in it's case) with drummer
Rhys Clark and Billy Joel.
It was
the first time for me being in a copter, and I remember the door that I
was rubbing up against was not too secure but the view was
amazing...and swooping into the area was just overwhelming to see the
thousands of people gathered there in one seemingly unsafe place. |
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There
was a huge "WOODSTOCK" vibe to it. but with palm trees and real
mountains as opposed to Woodstocks' gentile foliage and hills.
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Reniet:
Last time we spoke you mentioned something about people's reaction to
Billy Joel's band performance. Tell me more about it.
Larry:
Well, we were slightly unsure what they'd think. really. Up until that
point, we were a very folky, intimate, cerebrally provoking act.
Nothing too fancy, very simple four piece band, Thinking back on it
now, I think we should have had one more band member to fill things out
and make the sound match the Cold Spring Harbor
record, but that would have complicated the expenses for the
record/management companies. We knew when we saw that crowd we had to
toughen our set, but we were not prepared to do that with songs like
Travelin' Prayer, etc. But....somehow whatever we played that day, they
loved....everything worked. And even though we sounded nothing like the
bands that were scheduled to perform. somehow that in itself, set us
apart from the others.
Song after
song, our momentum built, and by the time we were at our last song, the
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Billy Joel @ MAR Y SOL
(April 2, 1972) |
The
last song that day and everyday was 'Tomorrow Is Today', which on that
day was really outstanding. But when we finished that song, they didn't
want us to leave, and so we had to resort to a harder styled cover song
with Billy doing a fine impersonation of Joe Cocker, singing 'The
Letter' with piano chops and Cockers' gyrations as well! After that I
ran off the stage to smoke a joint and our manager told me we had
another encore, and so this is where the audio picks up the story,
where he got his then girlfriend Elizabeth and road manager/sound
person Brian Ruggles to sing back ground vocals. Then he remembers to
introduce the band: "Oh and on the drums that's Rhys, on the bass
that's Larry, on the guitar, that's Al, and I'm Billy Joel if you
didn't catch the name". and then goes into the best version I have
ever heard of 'Jumping Jack Flash'. His vocal range was
unbelievable---truly amazing, but then again, he was only 22 at the
time.
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Reniet: I know this gig happened early in Billy Joel's career. How long have you guys been playing before this?
Larry: It was a three month process putting this band together. To put the record straight (and it has never been addressed) we were the band that launched his solo career--period!
I was the first to be auditioned around August-September 1971, at
Baggies Rehearsal Studios in Manhattan and then we moved auditions to a
Long Island recording studio called Ultrasonic where we started
auditioning drummers and guitarists for over two months.
This
actually took a long time because the record company was not paying the
musicians, they barely had money for food expenses for us, or at least
unwilling to do what should have been expected of them. But at that
time, I didn't care, I felt that Billy had a good shot at making it,
and money could be in the future, it was, but not for me. I have cried
over this for years, but opt now to not, because, I was taught by my
Mom that there is a reason for everything...and my life is far from
over, meaning there is a tomorrow and life still goes on.
After
we gave up hope to find a decent drummer in NYC for Billy's new band,
they decided to get Rhys Clark, the drummer that played on the Cold Spring Harbor
LP, I was so glad for that decision. Then we found our guitarist Al, a
very young 17 years phenom, who sounded like Jeff Beck, Jimmy Page and
Hendrix rolled into one! He also looked like Mick Taylor from The
Stones.
Our first show was a 'live'
radio show from Ultrasonic Studios (where we rehearsed) and was
broadcast on WLIR-FM radio. It was truly Billy Joel's 'first' gig. After that we performed a week of shows in Greenwich Village at The Gaslight Au Go Go (where Dylan used to play) and yet another three days at My Fathers' Place, another well known spot on Long Island.
By the time we performed at Mar Y Sol, it had been 4 or 5 months of
touring college towns on the East Coast, again......and that was after
we all moved out to L.A. in January 1972, to be closer to the
record/management company---boy, was that culture shock!!!.
We also performed in Los Angeles at The Troubadour,
(yet another very famous venue of the time) still during a tour
schedule which was done so scattered, which flew us around the country
in a crisscrossed, uncoordinated, 'grabbing at straws' manner.
But in closing, at the point and on the day that we performed Mar Y Sol, we were ready for anything!
We were always getting multi-encores EVERY show we performed, opening up for major acts of that era, and Mar Y Sol was no exception and we loved it!
Reniet: In several websites I've read about how this gig was what really got Billy signed and I'll quote one of them:
"Columbia
records took notice of Billy Joel at the Mar Y Sol Pop Festival in
Puerto Rico, which took place on April 1, 1972. Billy played in rainy
conditions, and earned some major standing ovations from the crowd".
- Barry, New York, NC
Unfortunately this is not mentioned in his official website (except that he was signed that year) or any other official sources (that I know of) making this a possible rumor. You were there, what's the truth?
Larry:
Well, at this time, I probably should not comment why Billy does not
address the Mar Y Sol or even our band, which to me is confusing, we
were a good band, that helped get him signed to his record contract
with Columbia....maybe it's just too many years under the bridge for
him. He's had many successes since then and doesn't want to go back in
time...I understand that, If I were him, maybe I'd be the same.
But......we
were there....and we did love him and his music, the great moments
getting people to share the secret of his music and talent.
In my heart, I wished that he would just give us and that event some recognition,
it was his triumphant moment that set the big wheel in motion for him
in his place in history. BTW,for the record, our performance was on
Easter Sunday, April 2.
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Reniet: You also mentioned that Billy was offered to appear in the LP but he decided not to. Why was that?
Larry: That's because of a technicality in his contract with his producer, that's all.
It's
a shame because people would have heard of him sooner and this
powerful, historic performance before they heard of 'Piano Man'. It may
have helped sales for 'Piano Man' LP as well...
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Reniet: After the gig, did you guys stayed there for the rest of the festival or part of it or did you leave right away?
Larry:
No, we left immediately. I had friends from NYC travel with us. A great
friend named Susan Goldsmith (who I wish I could contact now) was there
and somehow rented a car. I grabbed Ivi Munez and took her with me in
Susan's car. Al was with us in the car as well. It took us hours to
find our way back to The Cerromar, back in the Dorado area. But I
remember driving through some very poor areas in P.R. which saddened me.
People living in shacks, very simple means, very disturbing to me. But
we made it safely and Ivi never left my side--Hey! she was on stage for
the whole performance, but behind us naturally, in the back behind the
drums.
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Reniet: Any other memories?
Larry: Yeah, the next day we awoke, Ivi, me and Al!
Poor
Al! I made Ivi stay in the same room with Al on the other bed. We were
courteous to him and didn't make love in front of him, I would never do
that to anyone, even if I was stoned on pot!
[NOTE from the webmaster: I would... I have]
We
had breakfast outside in the area where they served us delicious food.
Rubbing shoulders with the stars of the day. I arranged a jam session
with Jazz Iconic legend Jerry Mulligan to play with us in an outdoor
area not to far from where our breakfast was served, in a little
alcove. With some persuasion, I managed to borrow band equipment from
the J Geils Blues Band for this impromptu session, it all worked out
very seamlessly...Billy, Mulligan, the band playing Be-Bop Rock! Very
cool
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Reniet:
Outside the Mar y Sol subject, tell us your story about you and the
band: when did you join, why & when where you no longer in the
band, etc.
Larry: OK, I will give you the short version:
Billy
and I had known each other since 1967 when I was drummer (yes, I said
drummer) with a local, slightly successful group called The Age of
Reason. The Age of Reason had a record deal with United Artist Records,
with a single released, was rated on American Bandstand, and performed
on all the major NYC TV shows, and major venues from that era.
We
also played early that year at a venue called My House where Billy's
band The Hassles held court. For weeks we opened for The Hassles, thus
my relationship (at that time) with Billy Joel, then known in The
Hassles as Billy Joe!
Several
years later, in 1971 I ran into Billy's then manager, and a
conversation began about Billy's new LP and that Billy needed to put a
band together. I then told his manager that I was now playing bass and
was interested in Billy's new project. Through his manager, I listened
to Cold Spring Harbor which hadn't been released yet. I loved it
because it was so Beatles! And that started the ball in motion to
become the first in the band to be auditioned.
After
1972 when the record company could not distribute the record units to
the cities where we were touring, it became increasingly apparent that
this idea of touring was a stupid, and costly one.
After
we stopped touring, I went back to NYC after living with Billy, Al,
Brian and Bob in a Hollywood Hills house, feet from the famous
Hollywood sign. I had to pick up the pieces of my very young life and
pay attention to the area of making money. I got another opportunity to
play bass with a touring company of the Grammy Award winning rock
musical, Godspell. That stint lasted many years, racking in over 1000
performances...until I became very bored playing those very nice
songs.. but enough was enough...
Many
other profitable and interesting opportunities luckily came my way and
I enjoyed my life performing with some really talented well known
American icons who enriched me musically.
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